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As reported on KROC NEWS, Sid Harman passed away Sunday among friends and family...and Monday we had the joy of reliving wonderful and very funny memories with a man Sid called Mr. Rochester, Ed Rauen.

First, a bit about Sid Hartman, the Minnesota Legend...

"Hartman celebrated his 100th birthday in March. According to the Pavek Museum of Minnesota Broadcasting and Sports Illustrated, the Minneapolis native's career as a newspaper sportswriter began in the 1940s with the Star Tribune. He began covering sports on the radio in the early 1950s on WLOL in Minneapolis and within a few years, he moved to WCCO and soon became a household name across Minnesota.

His final column in the Star Tribune about the Vikings game against Atlanta was published Sunday morning. The tributes starting coming in within minutes of the reporting of Sid Hartman's death. KEEP READING HERE. 

Ed Rauen has a storied sports career in Rochester. From officiating, to being President of the Rochester Youth Football Association, to working on KROC-AM calling games and sport reporting, he has many stories about Sid Hartman.

And now, from Today's Rochester Today with Andy Brownell, Luke Lonien and James Rabe, Ed Rauen, we remember Sid Hartman. Feel free to download and listen, or just click play and sit back and get ready to laugh. (Full transcript - scroll down).

ROCHESTER TODAY TRANSCRIPT FROM OCTOBER 19, 2020 - Auto generated, you will find spelling errors and obvious mistakes. Please look past that and just enjoy the amazing stories.

Andy Brownell (00:00):
Hello and welcome everybody. We are so glad to hear from you, ed. I'm glad you could join us today.

Ed Rauen (00:07):
Well, thank you very much, Andy. It's a, it's a pleasure again.

Andy Brownell (00:11):
Well, and I know I got ahold of you on very, very short notice this morning, but, um, when I heard the news yesterday Sid Hartman's passing to be honest with you. You're the first person I thought of you're a person. You probably, you probably, um, at least as this neck of the woods, uh, the, the one person who has had more dealings with, uh, set over the years than anybody else.

Ed Rauen (00:36):
Well, I really have Andy, uh, actually, uh, probably back when, when I started the broadcast was burning Alaska 1973 was really when I got to know him. So we're looking at virtually 50 years of, uh, when I got into your head, uh, relationship, uh, with him and then the last 25 years in particular, uh, after I retired from IBM, uh, when, when I had the opportunity to attend so many sporting events in the twin cities and press conferences, et cetera. When I got to know him very well,

James Rabe (01:10):
The first meeting, go ahead. How did you first meet Sid Hartman?

Ed Rauen (01:14):
Well, I guess, uh, I'm not sure, but I, my, my recollection would be, it would have probably been at a press conference. Uh, we went, uh, every Tuesday, you know, for many, many years, uh, they still have them, but it's a whole different format now, you know, weekly press conferences, but it would have been a basketball or football press conference. Uh, when I'm most likely I had a chance to, uh, spend a little bit of a time with him.

Andy Brownell (01:42):
So I mean, years, so many Sid stories over the years. Um, and it's hard to grasp how many years it's been. Um, well, what was Sid, like in person, what we needed to deal with them?

Ed Rauen (01:56):
Well, there's a couple of things about Sid, uh, and one is that he always had a very fond relationship with the city of Rochester, all virtually every time I'd see him, you know, not, not every time, but certainly many, many times he had started off by, I was down to your fine city last week and it goes, it ever growing. And he said, every time I go down and he's got a new building kind of thing, and he had a, you know, his doctor was originally was dr. Linton and, uh, Scotland, uh, uh, what was then followed up with his physician at the Mayo clinic. And so he always talked about the letter and what to find doctors, they were in, what grade, two facilities, the male clinic has, et cetera. So he only had a good relationship, uh, uh, with Rochester. In fact, his, his, uh, I think I'm correct in saying that, uh, his wife, uh, his, he was only married once there was, was a Rochester native. Oh, I didn't know that. Yeah, I'm quite sure that,

Andy Brownell (03:01):
Okay. So when you first got to deal with Sid in the early seventies, he would have been what, late forties, early fifties, probably at that point. And I'm kind of at the prime of his career, who knew he was only halfway through it at that point, but he was the big man in town. Wasn't he? I mean, everybody,

Ed Rauen (03:22):
He wasn't, he was a big man in town. And, uh, and, uh, give you a couple of examples in the weekly press conferences, where I had the most relationship with him. A lot of times after the ball games, uh, in the, in the press conferences, uh, you know, the post game, press conferences, I of course got a chance to see him, but usually that was all year. Everybody had had a role they want to do, they want to get interviews and get out of there and get the deadlines.

And, uh, so it wasn't a, you know, you didn't have that one on one relationship, uh, then as you did in, you know, Tuesday press conferences, uh, and, uh, that's where I got to know. And ambassador, then I had a chance to, uh, the media, as you, as you, I think, you know, for all of the difficult for football and basketball, and that's true for all of the large colleges.

Ed Rauen (04:10):
Uh, every year, every week, they have a have a media day and they differentiate food and the food that they had, and then it had to be at the games. There was always food provided. And I probably had hundreds of times, uh, and probably more than that, where [inaudible] same table, some may be just he and I, and sometimes it'd be a shooter from the st Paul paper or one of them, or somebody other writers, et cetera. So I had a chance to sit with some, uh, you know, sometimes one-on-one and sometimes with, with a group of media people, but he was, he was, he was, uh, he, he clearly, wasn't a man amongst town when it came to sports, uh, interviews. I recall sometimes, you know, I, as you know, Andy, I always, uh, up until, uh, three years ago, I always did, uh, interviews and I'd bring the tape back to Carol C.

Ed Rauen (05:00):
And so when you do that, uh, you develop a relationship with the players. And I go back particularly back to guys, like [inaudible], who was the quarterback of the gophers and Adam, whenever a quarter who was a quarterback. And doesn't like Tyrone Carter before that, I had a really good relationship with him. So sometimes when I'd be interviewing those guys, and as you know, I always try to get them one-on-one, which is pretty hard to do, but almost always could figure out a way to get those guys one on one. But if she had happened to, to see, I was over there one on one, uh, quite frequently, he's come over here and start asking questions right away. You know, most people would, would stand on the side and let you finish before they interject and do the interview. But not it, I mean, once they'd want an interview, she had worse, it was right front and center, but that's when he was, uh, he was, uh, you know, uh, most people, everyone respected him.

Ed Rauen (05:58):
I think it's probably the best way to say that, you know, he could, he could be abrasive quite, quite, quite abrasive at times. I always felt sort of a concern for the young interns in the media relations at the university of Minnesota, because he really ripped him then. And excuse me, he ripped down a lot of people, but he was, he was his own guy. And I, up until just the last couple of years, his stamina was just unbelievable. Giving an example. I think it was in 2000 to, I believe it was 2000 to nine when TCM bank stadium opened. So it was like 2007. The media was invited up to, to see the footprint, whereas the new stadium was going to be, so we got there, I got there, I drove up, of course, most of the twin cities were there and they took us up in the McNamara center where as you probably know, was on university Avenue, diagonal from where is the stadium stance.

Ed Rauen (06:59):
And they took us up into the bank, into the back in the bank of ever building up the elevator all the way to the, I think that whatever it was, the 12th floor or something like that. And we had to walk up two flights of stairs to get to the little stairwell and went up to the roof. And we're up on the roof of the bank, the way we're building and to get from an enclosure, which is just like an outdoor clothes enclosure out onto the roof. There was about a three foot high. You had to step to a, it was like just a window. You had to step through that. And instead of course it was in there and he just stepped right over that, you know? And then, um, my God, I'm 15 years young, younger than him. And I got hole on the side and lift, pull my, get my pants and pull my leg up over the top.

Ed Rauen (07:45):
She just stepped right over top. It went on the roof and I think most of us, and there was no, there was no side railings or anything up on the roof. And they had the stadium all chopped off where the stadium was going to be. So we could get a good look of where the stadium is going to be in. And, uh, one of the people from the bank was who was moderating. He was telling us where, you know, this is, you know, a little bit about it in some way the facility was going to be and so on. But see, it was just the most words were worried about him because he walked right up to the edge of the stadium. We're worried about that, but, uh, that's the way he was. I mean, his, his stamina was unreal. And, uh, just staying with that, uh, about, I think it was three years ago when the performance center opened up, they had a media relations day for there, for the media to go through through the performance center.

Ed Rauen (08:37):
And it's hidden now is as I think a lot of the audit spells in the last number of years when I was using a Walker. So we get older over to the performance center and we all get down a couple of elevators and take off what we go through. I went to every floor of the things, there was seven or eight floors, a performance center. You go up the elevator, you get off and you've got to go through some doorways. It was invariably in the back. And he would come through that line, who pushes is that pushing a Walker, like a bumper car? I mean, she was just, boom, boom, boom, boom. And going through the doorway, I mean, he just had his head down, looking at the, looking at the ground. It was like a bumper car the way he goes through there. But that was shit. You know, he was always looking, he was always at the front of the line. Uh, and he sorta, but he always marshaled his own drummer, but everyone respected him. And I think that's why he could do that. Uh, and in terms of his studies, his whole life, you know, you just saw the way he, he interacted with sports people all around the world and you know, everyone, everyone, uh, respected him.

Speaker 3 (09:44):
We got to take a quick break here. ((COMMERCIALS)) We are talking with Ed Rauen memories of, excuse me. Sid Hartman on Rochester's Newstalk 1340. KROC AM and 96.9 FM

Ed Rauen (10:08):
And that talking about that, uh, as, uh, I think, uh, Andy, I know in particular, you may, maybe you may recall as well that I used to visit. I was a chairman for many, many years after the university of Minnesota Williams fund fundraising, Rochester. And we had was an annual event we had at, at different golf conference. We started at the country club and went to Willow Creek and ended up out at suburby, uh, when we had those and sit always came down. So there was many times he'd raid right down with whoever they asked. Right? Correct. It was at the university of Minnesota. And of course, as chairman, I had responsibility to turn it into the number of people that were going to have meals and how many were going to call off and all those kinds of good things. And I said, I knew he was going to be there. And I knew he was going to eat. I also knew he was never going to pay.

Ed Rauen (11:01):
And that was his head, was it, he was getting comped and he didn't ask for it. But because, because, you know, we know, and that it was sort of an accepted, like a lot of things were said that if he was there, he was not going to pay. And I had the pleasure actually also having him down in the quarterback's Cub, a number of times when we were down at Michaels, uh, when I was president of Zana, as you know, and had a chance to, to invite him and he'd be there. He was down to quarterback a number of times. And, and he really enjoys adding, of course, the members really enjoyed listening to him, but a lot of the audience would have heard this story, but this is probably about as good as [inaudible]. And it wasn't a relationship that I had, but the police had said that one of the more famous sayings about his interviewing was he actually went into the, into the shower room, the interview with Joe Montana. Well, Joe Montana was in the shower after a, after a super bowl. Wasn't Joe Montana was the quarterback for the 40 Niners, said that in order to get him, he wanted to make sure he got it. He got that first interview. It was like, he goes into the shower room and interviews, Joe Montana in the shower.

James Rabe (12:08):
That's the only way to be, not afraid.

Ed Rauen (12:14):
Everything was Sid that just to show you what the respect that the media had in the twin cities media, is that when we'd go into, uh, uh, press, when the press conferences, whether it be a to Z or a post game, press conference, sit always sat in the front row and right in the middle. And we all really deferred to see it for the first question. It was just, uh, occasionally, uh, some rookie would get in there and try to quickly try to answer the first, ask the first question and sit would talk right over. And that was his,

Ed Rauen (12:47):
I learned very quickly, but it would be a, we just know that the way those work is the coach always gives some opening comments. And then, you know, he'll say any questions and he'll say I'm open to questions. And with mostly quite frankly, a bit of a silence there, because we're always in that instead. Do I want to take that first would make that first question and we'd go from there. Uh, but, uh, he was, uh, and that was the respect he had, uh, as you well know, he had a great relationship, uh, with bud grant and, uh, but grant tells that he could tell a lot of stories, but, uh, tell one that he told that, which I just want from him. And the other one, I actually observed an incident with bud. Uh, but when bud was, was, uh, was early, early in his days, I think when he was actually here either at university or when he was, uh, uh, coaches up in Canada, uh, he and Sid went to, to lose for a, an event up in Duluth.

Ed Rauen (13:52):
And, uh, it was in the winter time and during the big snow storm coming home, Sid was driving and they got a flat tire. So bud said, we go out in the back, we look in the back and bud says, and of course the spare was flat as well. And he said, I'm looking at him for his despair. And I still was flat. And I turned around and we're sitting and he says, he's about a hundred yards heading the other direction. The honorees, I said, he said, said, where are you going? He said, I'm going towards that light. But Ted that's the book,

Ed Rauen (14:27):
The case where it was frankly sort of surprising them over at Mankato is if it was years ago, it's changed now. But when we used to be able to go, the media used to be able to go onto the field. Each man kid always had three or four fields that ran adjacent to each other. And there was a four foot divider between each field. And the media had to stay in those bins in that four foot space that never get onto the field. So I was standing down with some other video people and bud grant was behind the offense. They were running place. And Ted came down the line and he got down right adjacent to where bud grant was. And he stepped onto the field, but in his fashion, what he did think, he just turned around and he pointed towards the white chalk Mark, wherever they were, he was supposed to hit shit back. She backed up and got behind it, but never said a word, but even in that environment, but they deal, but was always in control. He just pointed Sid behind the line.

Andy Brownell (15:30):
He didn't say it,

Ed Rauen (15:32):
That happened. And, and he did, uh, but he was great. Uh, and of course it's his latter years now, his driving was, he had a reputation. Of course, if you wanted to stay out, if, since coming, make sure you got some room between you and this car. Uh, just like two years ago, I was up to the performance center and I had parked in the, in the open stall and I was just getting ready to open door now, the corner of my eyes. So a car turning to parking stall next to me and I recognized was sin. And I quickly closed the door. And if I had the door open, it had been God he's coming in there. But yeah, most of you know, he was a great friend of, uh, of, uh, uh, he was a great friend of Bobby Knights. And if you know, he and Bobby Knight had a, you know, Bobby Knight was really callous with so many people, but now it's hit hard, but they get along fabulously. You know, I think you can go on and on about all the sports celebrities that he has,

Andy Brownell (16:43):
No, and among some of the younger sports writers now it's kind of a different world, but they threw some criticism towards CID for being a so-called Homer. But, um, he was an other shamed cheerleader of all Minnesota.

Ed Rauen (17:01):
My description of that, Andy has always been from forever is that he, when it comes to the Minnesota teams, he was more like it like a team media relations guy. Then he wasn't, it wasn't a sports guy. I mean, he really promoted a, whether it was to go for football or basketball, or it was the 20th, the Vikings or whoever. Uh, he really, he really promoted them. What never say anything bad about him? You never saw any negatives in the paper bottom. Uh, he just, uh, uh, he was never critical. Uh, he was, he was a promoter, as I said, he was to me. I just equated it to like a media relations individual who was putting out favorable comments and data all the time. And that's the way we said was he was, uh, but again, he goes and same way as who lives. If, if we're in food line, you could have 10, 12 people lined up was to place a call through the buffet line, Sid, we'll get a plate. He just walk in and wherever he wanted to pick something out, he think you'd pick it up.

James Rabe (18:05):
Hey, we got it. We got to take a quick break again here on Rochester's News Talk 1340 KROC AM and 96.9 FM. ((Commercials)) And now we're back on KROC-AM 1340 and 96.9 FM with Ed Rauen talking about The late great Sid Hartman.

Ed Rauen (19:01):
I think mostly our audience knows his. If you look at his milestones in his life, it's almost you say, well, how could it even at that time, how would that be supposedly not supposed to? He did. And at nine years old, he was selling, selling newspapers at, uh, at nine years old, is he, he had actually would hold and pay for the papers were at that time, were a penny, a piece, he'd get a hundred of them. And he was saying, I got a hundred of them and I sold them for 2 cents. And so I made 90 cents a day.

Ed Rauen (19:34):
So his path, his mass was a hundred at a penny, a piece, a profit, but he, uh, he only made 97. So I don't know what happened to the other day, but, but, uh, you know, that's where he started. And, uh, and then he would be, he became, uh, he would, he had the responsibility after the challenge him. Then he was, I'll call it the dispatcher where he'd take the bumbles. And he would have jumped out of the street cars and stuff and take the bumbles and drop him off for his, the newspaper people to deliver around town. And he just kept working his way up like that. And he was in there in a way online all the time down at the, at the paper. And they ended up giving him a job and then he took it. Then he actually had a great deal of talent.

Ed Rauen (20:16):
You know, if you, uh, I remember as a high school kid, I went watched the Minneapolis Lakers play. I had the good fortune of being able to do that, watch the Lakers, play it. And instead was, uh, in essence, the general manager, he wasn't a, you know, you couldn't sports people couldn't be general Andrews of the teams. So they call them, uh, here's other, some, some other title, but he was basically the general manager, Minneapolis Lakers. And he was which he he's told the story of a million times. So Howie is got, uh, George Michael, uh, to sign with the Lakers and he took them on a car ride. And, uh, he was supposed to get a plane to fly out, to be interviewed somewhere else. And since kept showing him the city riding around in the cab and tell them what to tell the airport and left. And then they ended up like, stay over and sit, ended up talking to him into signing the contract. And he was a, he was a Baker and he ended up taking the Lakers to five NBA championships.

Andy Brownell (21:14):
So the rest is history and the rest is history. Yeah. Well, you mentioned the Lakers. I'm sorry. You mentioned the Lakers and our other

Ed Rauen (21:28):
Tell , your liquor story. Go ahead. I'll I'll keep it.

Andy Brownell (21:30):
No, I was, yeah. I was just gonna mention our other pro sports franchises in the community. I mean, he, he played a direct role in getting the Lakers here, but he was also behind the scenes, a big player in bringing the twins here and all these franchises that we have. Is that correct?

Ed Rauen (21:48):
The twins and the football and the same way with when NFL came in here, I was the same day, you know, he was heavily involved with bringing them in. Uh, he, you know, he, so he had a lot of, he really had a lot of skills in terms of, of his life. You know, he ended up, uh, frankly, uh, he's very wealthy guy. He is, I, as I, you know, he got into with some miseries friends in the cities he got into, uh, into real estate and apartment buildings and stuff. He really was. He individually, he had a head of, uh, the app down on st. Croix river for his head. I don't think he's got any more, but up until five or 10 years ago, he still had it. Uh, he had the app that he, he probably took people down to three times a year or so, but he had, he had the financial whereabouts to do that.

Ed Rauen (22:34):
And, uh, but he was also very generous. I heard Jim Cod this morning at the interview, Jim Scott and Jim Collins said when he came to the twins and I Sid, the first day he said Madam, and they took them out to lunch while you're hearing. It was, uh, it wasn't the first day was actually, as the season was coming to a close, he said, you need a winter coat. So he Sid, she took me down to one of his tailors and bought me a winter coat and a that's, you know, that was where he was, but it's hard. It was university of Minnesota. I mean, he had, he had access to app. Uh, I think he had, he had a better access to that than most of the employees at university of Minnesota. Cause we're saying, wants to go. He went to me, he didn't knock on doors.

Ed Rauen (23:17):
He just walked in, uh, when I, uh, the press conferences, uh, yeah. And it's changed now, but it used to be for both the Tuesday media days and post game shows and basketball, the media, the press room was right next to the, to the coach's office. So as soon as that press conference is over the rest of us, we were scrambling to get interviews with players and stuff, or it would just get up and walk right into the coaches room. I mean, he didn't knock any doors and he just had that kind of access. It was the same in football. Uh, with the, I remember many times in football, we're sitting there in the, in the Tuesday media rooms, uh, immediate days. And after the press conference is over, uh, they would bring in players for us to interview. And so we're waiting for those sit, never waited.

Ed Rauen (24:04):
He just, he just got up and he went right into the coach's office and he'd get his, his he'd get his one-on-one with the coach. And then, uh, and then they'd line up whoever he wanted to talk to. So he'd get them one on one. I mean, he had always had that access and of course it was a benefit to both the university and it was a benefit to see it because they got a tremendous amount of visibility, um, out of the apartment and he had, and he got an accident and it was, so it was, uh, it was a win win if there ever was. One was his, was his relationship at the university of Minnesota?

James Rabe (24:41):
I'm wondering...is there anyone ready to step into Sit Hartman's shoes? Let's get into that next. ((Commercials)) Sid Hartman passed away on Sunday and we're remembering Sid Hartman. And also, uh, my question is, is there any heir apparent to Sid Hartman's gigantic and amazing career?

Ed Rauen (25:27):
Not really. I think a couple of things will happen if I just, as I see what's going to happen with CCO and, and with, uh, with CCO up there, which were the two areas that he was in starting to commute from, from the radio TV standpoint, Mike max, I bought, I think clearly pick up a lot of the responsibilities that sit had and, uh, you know, then they'll, they'll just go from there, you know, and that's sort of been winding down in a way, as you know, I think yourself and the audience know like on the Sunday, uh, [inaudible] bike max and Andy has been there along with the Moana in the last part the last year, year and a half, because he also Sid was here, he didn't, he couldn't hear very well. And then he could not take it very well. And so they would fell, it fell in and supportive.

Ed Rauen (26:18):
So, uh, but Mike max is a tireless individual. I don't Mike very well. And if you, if you follow him at all, and you look at his, his TV work and his radio work, I mean, it seems like he's on, on the air 20 out of 24 hours a day. So he'll pick up a lot of them, but he will not, he'll not be, come in, was close and no one ever will. Uh, for one thing they asked is I think, uh, yeah, access has changed so much. Uh, you used to be that that's, you know, you can like, from an interview standpoint, you could get the players one on one. And I did that many years. I can, uh, you always had the group, they had the group pool where everybody was [inaudible] TV recorders, go on on the TVP side of it, re interview or doing a group interview, but then we could pick off individuals and I'm thinking of interviewing one-on-one university would help us out and doing that, I think example.

Ed Rauen (27:15):
But, but nowadays they bring people in, they might bring in two or three amount of time. And as soon as you're through they're off and they're behind closed doors, he's just so you don't have access. And that's where you mentioned, who's going to follow them no matter who it is, they would never have access anymore that that sin had. And even the culture, you know, the coaches, it's an interesting thing. And the sports business now, particularly at the college level, the higher profile is become the more money involved, the less Villa visibility you have to the, to the, to the coaches. You have far less visibility now to say that to PJ Fleck. And when I was covering them on an ongoing basis, I go back and think about your relationships I had with [inaudible] Brewster for assets. And as some of the other coaches kind of Mason and I had a good relationship, you know, and I actually had to Mason's house two or three different times, and he had that kind of relationship you can develop, but nowadays that doesn't happen very often anymore. So if she has, she has changed a great deal. And so Sid was at, at the right time at the right place, but he also was responsible for a tremendous amount of his sex. Yes.

Andy Brownell (28:35):
Well, yeah, he, he, you want to talk about pain, his dues. He started at the very bottom of the chain when it comes to the newspaper business and worked his way up to icon.

Ed Rauen (28:45):
He really did. He really did. Uh, it, yeah, there was a timber walls, uh, uh, you know, it's the same way it was Taylor, the owner of the timber owner. He had always had a good relationship with Sid, uh, and I recall many, not many times, but 15 times or so, or 20 times I had an opportunity to have lunch with Ben Taylor and, and, uh, and sometimes it would be there. Sometimes he wasn't at the immediate easy was game day or already for timber. It was always a game day. Uh, but, uh, it would just plant an and I and someone else who was where they're having lunch and he pops in and boy he's, he's heading right wherever the biggest sports man was, that's where he was, that's where he was going to. And, uh, but people always respected him the latter years, the, that the mainstream media just sort of tolerated him is the wrong word, but they respect them enough to stay at a distance.

Ed Rauen (29:45):
But they also knew that, that the articles that were coming into the paper were not being written by Ted Harmon anymore, but he had them the base material for those articles. I mean, he was still tireless. He had this, he had this big gigantic tape recorder that he walked around, walked around with. I recall one time at Prescott is when, uh, the Timberwolves were in the playoffs and Kevin Garnett came in and Sid, put this the rest of us, put our little two by two or two by four recorder up on the, on the podium ups and IDs is hit, of course, but he's got this one, that's about eight inches wide and he's pushing the buttons, trying to get the same Durand. And the guy that looked at it Sid, what are you doing with something as old as that [inaudible] pushing

James Rabe (30:34):
Well, and you know, that's going to be featured. Was it today or tomorrow? Luke in the, in the star Tribune. That was sports section that today was that today's station. Yeah, it was just, it's cool. It's a whole blank page with the recorder and then, you know, alright. P Sid Hartman.

Ed Rauen (30:51):
Oh yeah. They had a, on the first one page, they had a video, he looks, he's probably about 45 or brilliant, nice article. I picture his head. And then another page, as it was just mentioned, he, all of us was recorded, was there. And, uh, it was, uh, but it, it, what CCL is doing today. I mean, there's people from all across the country, uh, that are calling in and, and, and they, uh, you know, just yet to comment on, until I heard Jim Collins this morning, who lives on the East coast, he said, he picked up the Boston globe this morning. And there's an article in there about, uh, about the sin heartburn passing away, uh, which is, uh, you know, I think it's an illustration of, of, uh, how far and the depth, uh, uh, the United States. Cause he was able to, to be recognize that

Andy Brownell (31:46):
Regardless of what you think of Sid or your style or whatever, it may be, I'm really lucky to have him because,

Ed Rauen (32:00):
And if you see what's, uh, what's, uh, articles in the paper today, I think CCO has got, I think they're devoting a full day to attribute to it. Uh, and, uh, I got, I got a call from a friend and just before I went on here and asked about this as CTO, I said no. And he said, well, he says, they've got a full day of tributes as he had people to call in from all across the country about, we call them stories about shit.

James Rabe (32:28):
This is one of the reasons I was so happy, the way his relationship with WCCO continued. I'm from Michigan. And I remember the way they treated Ernie Harwell when he got a little bit older and wasn't as Great at calling the games. Cause he couldn't see as well and whatnot rather than support him, they just kicked him out of there. And sports legends from the reporting side are few and far between, and we really love them. And I am so glad that WCCO respected that.

Ed Rauen (32:55):
Yes, I think you're absolutely right. They're effected. And of course, uh, they, uh, you know, he was, he was there again. He has with the university of Minnesota, he was really valuable to CCO. Yeah. And to star Tribune, you can imagine the number of newspapers that were purchased just because of Sid Hartman and, and the people that lifted to this, which was a sports talk show on Sundays and stuff. It was really because of primarily because it Sid Harmon, people want to hear them. People want to read them and, and he, and he earned it. He earned that kind of, uh, that kind of respect.

Andy Brownell (33:36):
Oh really?

Ed Rauen (33:37):
It was, it was in his style. None of us could copy that. You can't, you just can't copy it. If you try it, you get kicked out. But, but that was hit Harper. And, uh, and again, uh, too often it was a win win that people would put up with the way he Sid was they actually, I should say, put up with they accepted, uh, how he operated. And he interned was, was very good, whether it was the university or whether it was a, the tempos, the Vikings, the twins, uh, he was very, he was also very good for, for any of them. He was, uh, he was like I said earlier, he was almost like a media relations person to all of those sports entities in the state of Minnesota.

Andy Brownell (34:21):
Well, and we're gonna probably have to wrap it up for the hour. I know that, uh, yeah. The special name for you particularly did me.

Ed Rauen (34:30):
Well, he did that. It was a, it was, I don't know why, but he always called me mr. Rochester for some reason. And like I said, I was probably the only guy he didn't, he didn't call a swear word, but it was always me. I would take off with a dialogue from there.

Andy Brownell (34:47):
That's wonderful. All right, Ed Rauen, um, thanks so much for sharing the time and the stories with us. I always love chatting with you. And remember the years gone by, on Rochester radio and elsewhere. So take care and we'll talk to you soon.

Ed Rauen (35:02):
Talk to you soon. And that's, if we get this virus over with one of these days, I'll try to stop down again and see you guys sometime.

Andy Brownell (35:11):
That'd be wonderful. That'd be wonderful. Thank you. Take care. It is Rochester's news talk 1340 Kelsey am and 96 nine FM. This is definitely going to be an episode of Rochester today. You want to download.

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